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Stairville RevueLED 120 COB RGB WW

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:35 am
by Cheng
Hi,

this is my secound fixture and my first color changer.
Could someone check, please?

lumen counted 120W x 638 = 82.000 Lumen
Color Temp. for WarmWhite
Fixed Lense Min and max = 50 Degres

Strobe: the manual says 0-100. I choosed slow to fast

Build in Programms: Custom Effects 0-255 (they do not tell the Effect to the values)

The Modus is called 4-channel/7-channel, as in the manual

Produkt: https://www.thomann.de/gb/stairville_re ... 9&reload=1
Manual: https://images.static-thomann.de/pics/a ... online.pdf

If I do not hear anything for a week or so, I put it to fixtures?

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Cheng

Re: Stairville RevueLED 120 COB RGB WW

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:32 am
by GGGss
It seems legit.
No errors in the Fixture validator: https://www.qlcplus.org/fixture_validator.php

Except for the Lumens output ... for a 120W source, this is way overrated. IMHO it is more 10k-ish

Re: Stairville RevueLED 120 COB RGB WW

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 1:16 pm
by Cheng
thx.
Yes, 100 seems to be a better multiplier for LED Watt2Lumen. I use 12K Lumen by now

Re: Stairville RevueLED 120 COB RGB WW

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:23 pm
by GGGss
Unless you are using a $$$-simulating engine, the amount of lumens doesn't matter - really. And even then ... lumens x aperture x distance = Lux.
If you want a stage to be lit evenly, you need Lux.
I use the factor of 7 to compare led to incandescent watts. 120W of LED would be something in the neighborhood of 1kW incandescent. A stage of say 6m wide -evenly spread- -in a small theatre setting- would need 6 of them (to start with)

Re: Stairville RevueLED 120 COB RGB WW

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:27 am
by Cheng
Interesting info.
I thought, that the luminosity could be important for the 3D simulation. It would be up to the simulation engine to calculate the lux. The fog density would then also have to be taken into account.

Re: Stairville RevueLED 120 COB RGB WW

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:28 pm
by GGGss
Getting off-topic, but never the less... in 3D visualization, the number of times I had to manually alter the luminosity values, is a fact.
Visualization guys calculate the average output of the fixtures involved and adopt their brightness in the function of this equation. Which serves to the overall excepted look of the visu.
Now imagine adding an Atomix 3000 into your gear. Even the brightest fixture will faint under the vast amount of lumens, the Atomix has to offer. Now all other fixtures will look like candles on a table, because of this average. Manual intervention will be necessary to even identify other fixtures.