What Kind of Bar Is This?

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tuck
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What Kind of Bar Is This?

Post by tuck » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:28 am

Would anyone know what make this bar is? I have very little control when loading the Chauvet 4Bar or 4Bar Tri.
There are no markings on the make and model. Different kinda foot switch as well.
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Thanks so much for your time.
Chris

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Re: What Kind of Bar Is This?

Post by Jungle Jim » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:37 am

I don't think it's a Chauvet 4 bar (or 4 bar tri, or mini 4 bar, or corebar), all Chauvet models have footswitches with 2 or 3 pedals.

It seems like a chinese copy of Chauvet, I found some models with similar footswitches on Aliexpress (falsely advertised as Chauvet). I could not find the maker or any manual. Your best luck if it came with a manual and DMX specifications.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4BAR-4- ... 54854.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4BAR-4- ... 47060.html
https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-BAR-RGB-PAR- ... 1687667145
https://www.amazon.com/Ridgeyard-Christ ... B014KO991C

Good luck!

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Re: What Kind of Bar Is This?

Post by tuck » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:13 am

Thanks For your time. Even if I had the manuals I wouldn't have a clue how to program. But I'll check out what you posted.

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Re: What Kind of Bar Is This?

Post by tuck » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:58 pm

I wish I knew how to program this thing. I have found that it has 13 channels so I have this POS set to 13 channels addressed as 1.
So I pick different fixtures in the extended list of fixtures and get some control. So I'm making progress (some what)
Gonna keep poking at it. LOL!
Thanks for your time.

PEACE!!!

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Re: What Kind of Bar Is This?

Post by Jungle Jim » Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:16 pm

If you have a manual and you can send me a picture of the page with the dmx settings, I could program it for you with the fixture manager. Otherwise you will have to find out by trial and error. You probably have one channel for each red-green-blue (possibly for each of the 4 lights), one for intensity, one of stobe effects. If you never used qlc before this might be hard to figure, but if you did use some other light you might try by trial and error in the simple desk.

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Re: What Kind of Bar Is This?

Post by tuck » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:37 pm

I have made progress. Using your links to the fixtures, the channels they have is 13 (according to what I read) and the fixture only has 2 options 3 or 13.
3 each for RGB like you suggest for each light leaving 1 for brightness which it gives some strobe. So after picking and choosing fixture after fixture
the best one I found was Chauvet 4 bar. So for now at least I can pick colors for our next show. That beats a poke in the eye. lol
I did contact the ebay fixture seller. Of course I didn't purchase it from them so they are reluctant to give me a manual. But I havn't given up yet.

Thanks so much for your time. You've been very helpful.

More importantly I have another post out here for a new Chauvet fixture which is really cool.
I'm hoping someone would take time to do some programming. I've looked at the fixture manager but really have no clue. Is it as simple as copying
what each channel is suppose to do from the manual and putting that same info in the fixture manager?
I've come a long long way to when I first started using QLC+ due to help from this sight. THANKS SO MUCH!!

https://www.chauvetdj.com/wp-content/up ... ev4_WO.pdf

Peace Out!!

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Re: What Kind of Bar Is This?

Post by Jungle Jim » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:41 pm

Hi tuck

Yes, the fixture editor is really simple. You just copy the dmx settings from the manual.

For the unknown bar you have, you could easily create a definition.

Open the fixture editor. Enter something for Manufacturer/Model. Go to channels, add channels one by one (probably 13 for your device). Since you have no manual, you will have to test yourself (using the simple desk in QLC) what each channel does. If channel 1 controls the red color in spot #1, simply name it "Red spot 1" or something, then chose intensity and red in the colour group. Usually color channels control one of RGB colors, from 0 to 100%. You can open the Chauvet 4 bar .qxf file in the editor and see how it works and derivate your thing from there.

Good luck

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Re: What Kind of Bar Is This?

Post by Jungle Jim » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:28 pm

Here is a video by Massimo on how to create a fixture definition in the fixture editor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3omuD6F9RI

It's very simple and intuitive.

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Re: What Kind of Bar Is This?

Post by tuck » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:45 pm

Thanks Jungle Jim. I'll check it out.

Peace!

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Re: What Kind of Bar Is This?

Post by tuck » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:55 pm

Hey Jungle Jim

Thanks for all your help. It's been fun as hell getting all this stuff programed. Wouldn't be able to do any of it with out peeps like you.
Greatly appreciated!! I have a question if you get time. I'm programming another fixture. With your link on fixture editor I'm taking it on myself.
I'm doing the 4 channel version but there's 2 different functions per channel. The manual says 4 or 256 channels. Should I split these up?
Maybe make it 8 Channels? (even though it states 4 or 256) Attached a picture of the DMX values.
I think I got this.....as long as she don't jump. I have already programed 4 channels so we'll see : )
Whats your thoughts on this?

Thanks So Much!!

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