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Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:20 pm
by MontyZuma
Two Updated Fixture definitons I'm using.
Better naming of Channels, Heads, corrected Channel Groups.

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:40 am
by mcallegari
MontyZuma wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:20 pm Two Updated Fixture definitons I'm using.
Better naming of Channels, Heads, corrected Channel Groups.
They don't even pass the fixture validator.
I guess you haven't even read the OP.

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:09 am
by mcallegari
siegmund wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:45 am Two new definitions:
  • Stairville Tri Flat PAR Profile 5x3W RGB thanks to Freasy: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10890
  • QTX MHS-60 thanks to Nerijus Mongirdas (and Robert Box): viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10897
Three new fixture definitions:
All added, thanks !

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:48 am
by MontyZuma
mcallegari wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:40 am
MontyZuma wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:20 pm Two Updated Fixture definitons I'm using.
Better naming of Channels, Heads, corrected Channel Groups.
They don't even pass the fixture validator.
I guess you haven't even read the OP.
Difficult:
Massimo Callegari wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:33 pm
  • A fixture should pass the online fixture validator to be accepted
  • A fixture should reflect the exact indications given in the product user manual
is a contradiction in itself - the only problem with the fixture validator is that modes shouldn't contain the word mode in the name, this is what they are called in the product user manual. So one of those conditions is violated in any case. Shall I invent a new name for each mode?

The second doesn't validate because the manual says for the strobe effect "increasing speed" and the validator thinks it should belong to the speed group. But strobe is a shutter effect, isn't it?

So is it "should pass the validator" or is it "MUST pass the validator"?

k

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:13 pm
by mcallegari
MontyZuma wrote:is a contradiction in itself - the only problem with the fixture validator is that modes shouldn't contain the word mode in the name, this is what they are called in the product user manual. So one of those conditions is violated in any case. Shall I invent a new name for each mode?
And here we go again.
Do you want to be right ? You're right then. Happy ?

The word "should" says it all. The rest is common sense.
In the QLC+ add fixture dialog there is "Mode" and a combo box. Therefore "Mode: 13 channel mode" doesn't sound that right.
Plus, multiply the word "mode" by all the modes of 870 fixtures and you'll have the amount of all the useless bytes that would go into the QLC+ package.

Also, if a fixture manual is available only in german, would you stick to it and write a fixture definition in german for everybody in the world ? Please be reasonable.

The whole point here is that I started this topic to ask for some help because I was way behind with the review of the fixtures submitted in this forum area.
Instead, you took a random post and posted an update of an existing fixture and a new one no one has ever seen. Both should have gone in a new thread in the Fixture definitions area.

But who am I to say this forum is a total mess cause people refuse to simply choose the right place ?

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:10 pm
by MontyZuma
mcallegari wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:13 pm
MontyZuma wrote:is a contradiction in itself - the only problem with the fixture validator is that modes shouldn't contain the word mode in the name, this is what they are called in the product user manual. So one of those conditions is violated in any case. Shall I invent a new name for each mode?
And here we go again.
Do you want to be right ? You're right then. Happy ?
Yeah. You are right of course.

I have to admit I was a little bit pissed - please forgive me, that's not your fault. I really should know better.

Of course that was the wrong thread. I'll come up with some idea how to include the mode number from the manual without using "mode" in the name and will resubmit in the right place.

klaus

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:16 pm
by siegmund
Two new definitions:

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:34 am
by siegmund
New definition:

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:45 pm
by siegmund
Next round!
One question: What is the sense behind requiring the pan/tilt degree information on a laser fixture?

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:33 pm
by mcallegari
All added except for Big Dipper which is in Spanish.
Thanks a lot Lukas !
One question: What is the sense behind requiring the pan/tilt degree information on a laser fixture?
For when we'll ever have 3D laser simulation :smirk:

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:43 pm
by siegmund
Here we are - open fixture library extending (;
  • Chauvet DJ GigBAR 2 (Flo Edelmann - Open Fixture Library) This fixture still has two errors in the validator which cannot be fixed imo: The "White Strobe Dimmer" channel is indeed an intensity channel, but obviously only working when strobing (see manual). So the intensity type is correct, it should not be of type shutter
  • American DJ Boom Box Fx2 (Felix Edelmann - Open Fixture Library)
  • Showtec Dominator (Felix Edelmann - Open Fixture Library)

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:20 pm
by Fxedel
siegmund wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:43 pm Here we are - open fixture library extending (;
  • Chauvet DJ GigBAR 2 (Flo Edelmann - Open Fixture Library) This fixture still has two errors in the validator which cannot be fixed imo: The "White Strobe Dimmer" channel is indeed an intensity channel, but obviously only working when strobing (see manual). So the intensity type is correct, it should not be of type shutter
  • American DJ Boom Box Fx2 (Flo Edelmann - Open Fixture Library)
  • Showtec Dominator (Flo Edelmann - Open Fixture Library)
:)
The two last of them are mine (Felix Edelmann) ;)

Thanks for posting here :)

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:49 pm
by siegmund
Oh, sorry - I just saw OFL and Edelmann and didn't know there is another one in the crew!
I corrected it, thanks for the hint and sorry again!

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:30 pm
by siegmund
Hey Massimo,
today I'll have a bunch of new fixtures for you. But first, I have a question for you since it arose twice now for the second time:
What about fixtures, which support endless Pan/Tilt?

So far this was the case for the following fixtures:
viewtopic.php?p=49630
viewtopic.php?p=50213

As Flo stated in the last thread, a possible solution could be to adapt the fixture definition scheme. In addition to that, the fixture validator should be updated.

Until this is solved, I won't submit these fixtures for adding them to QLC+ but will keep track of them in this post.

Greetings!
Lukas

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:47 pm
by siegmund
Okay, actually there were just 2 new ones - the others are Chinese or very incomplete.

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:27 pm
by siegmund
Quite some time has passed since the last update - so here comes the next one (since I've heard you're about to release 4.11.2 I hurried up a bit)!
This is what you call a chinese fixture, right? http://www.qlcplus.org/forum/viewtopic. ... 519#p51519

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:27 pm
by siegmund
Some more fixture definition files...

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:27 pm
by siegmund
Last two ones

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 1:58 pm
by mcallegari
siegmund wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:27 pm Quite some time has passed since the last update - so here comes the next one (since I've heard you're about to release 4.11.2 I hurried up a bit)!
Very sorry Lukas !
I totally missed the latest updates to this thread :(
I have committed the new definitions with the new format.

Re: Help gathering complete definitions anyone ?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:27 pm
by siegmund
Hey Massimo,

I was very busy the last weeks but will have some spare time till September. So I thought about gathering latest complete definitions.
Since I did not follow the complete fixture definition rework process: Is there already a fixture validator for the new format? How can I convert fixtures to the new format and edit fixture definitions of new format? Do I have to use the QLC+5 fixture definition editor?
Or should I simply add the fixtures in the current format?

Lukas