QLC+ 5 Preview - Update #1

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Re: QLC+ 5 Preview - Update #1

Post by mumbles » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:38 pm

gmint wrote:Massimo,

I was going to mention the possibility of the camera connector. I know it's kind of hack to get USB out of the iPad for a lot of things. While I don't necessarily share your occasional Apple anger :D I can definitely see the possibility of that particular ability going away without a lot of notice which would obviously be a very bad thing.

I definitely share your vision for using the iPad as a remote for QLC+. I can see that as definitely be something useful. It would be especially useful if the iPad could function as a supplemental (say second or third console). Even if I didn't *need* it, I'd have a hard time not adding an iPad or two and pretending that I have a Whole Hog :)

Very interesting on the Android version!

I don't see usb midi control going away.. as this is a key component in Apples garageband and is part of the iOS SDK. and Midi Studio that is part of Mac OSX.
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Re: QLC+ 5 Preview - Update #1

Post by gmint » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:58 pm

I wasn't saying USB Midi, I was more thinking if you managed to get the FTDI driver working over the camera connector...

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Re: QLC+ 5 Preview - Update #1

Post by mumbles » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:58 pm

gmint wrote:I wasn't saying USB Midi, I was more thinking if you managed to get the FTDI driver working over the camera connector...
Ooooo... Gotcha :)
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Re: QLC+ 5 Preview - Update #1

Post by mumbles » Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:16 am

I haven't read everything about Apples I/Okit but...... wouldn't Apples I/OKit guarantee a developers to support devices 3 party devices on iOS and Mac such as FTDI. This is also what I believe is needed for Mac's to use FTDI's without having to uninstall Apples D2XX driver and install FTDI's generic D2XX driver.

I still have yet to get USB DMX adapters to work directly plugged into my mac's running Yosemite. Im running QLC+ on Mac and outputting ArtNet to work around driver issues.
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Re: QLC+ 5 Preview - Update #1

Post by mumbles » Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:08 am

I personally don't see camera adapter as a hack per say when it comes to iOS devices. Correct me if Im wrong but Its the something as an OTG adapter that android needs to connect standard USB devices. Camera adapter just uses lightning connector vs micro USB on device side I believe. Apple has just named their adapter a camera adapter for marketing purposes. And these adapters are needed because of physical limitations of the hardware being to thin to accommodate full size USB.

I know this was kind of off subject but I don't want to see feature possibly scrapped do to an adaptor.
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Post by mcallegari » Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:17 am

Wait wait, I don't want to start a FTDI discussion here, but there are 3 different things on Apple:
1- libFTDI: open source and used/bundled by QLC+
2- D2XX: proprietary and close source - OSX and Windows work with it but I do NOT bundle it in QLC+
3- Apple FTDI driver: the one causing all the issues since Mavericks

I do hope there's a reason for #3 and sooner or later I will discover it. Maybe an official FTDI support have become part of the Apple IOKit and possibly it can be used on iOS too, but here I lack of experience/interest in researching the "native" Apple world.

Can anybody point me to this USB-MIDI adapter that can be used on a iPad ?
It could be interesting to support it on an eventual mobile version. Does it work on a Mac too ?

[EDIT] Is it this one ? http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigmidi2/

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Re: QLC+ 5 Preview - Update #1

Post by mumbles » Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:17 am

mcallegari wrote:Wait wait, I don't want to start a FTDI discussion here, but there are 3 different things on Apple:
1- libFTDI: open source and used/bundled by QLC+
2- D2XX: proprietary and close source - OSX and Windows work with it but I do NOT bundle it in QLC+
3- Apple FTDI driver: the one causing all the issues since Mavericks

I do hope there's a reason for #3 and sooner or later I will discover it. Maybe an official FTDI support have become part of the Apple IOKit and possibly it can be used on iOS too, but here I lack of experience/interest in researching the "native" Apple world.

Can anybody point me to this USB-MIDI adapter that can be used on a iPad ?
It could be interesting to support it on an eventual mobile version. Does it work on a Mac too ?

[EDIT] Is it this one ? http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigmidi2/

I currently use these 2 USB midi controllers with Mac OS X 10.10.4, Ubuntu mate 14.04.2 and iOS 8.4.1
Korg nanoKontrol2-- http://www.korg.com/us/products/control ... okontrol2/
Korg nanoPad2-- http://www.korg.com/us/products/controllers/nanopad2/

iPhone and iPad required this adapter to connect these midi controllers.
Apple Camera Adapter-- http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD821 ... d984ae0a4f
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Re: QLC+ 5 Preview - Update #1

Post by sschaeffner » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:55 pm

Hi,

just a note on having to pay the $99 to be able to try out apps on iOS devices: since Xcode 7 (currently in beta) you can actually put apps on iOS devices to try them out without having to be part of Apple's developer program.

source: https://developer.apple.com/xcode/ ("Now everyone can get their app on their Apple device.")

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Re: QLC+ 5 Preview - Update #1

Post by mcallegari » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:55 pm

sschaeffner wrote:Hi,

just a note on having to pay the $99 to be able to try out apps on iOS devices: since Xcode 7 (currently in beta) you can actually put apps on iOS devices to try them out without having to be part of Apple's developer program.

source: https://developer.apple.com/xcode/ ("Now everyone can get their app on their Apple device.")
That's great news !
Thanks Simon for sharing the information.
I'll check it out as soon as I can. I need to find some kind soul to borrow an iPad first :)
xcode 7 is now in beta 6. By the time I find an iPad, let's hope it turns to final and let's hope it will work with Qt.

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Re: QLC+ 5 Preview - Update #1

Post by mcallegari » Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:50 pm

Excellent news everyone !
QLC+ 5 will run on iOS !
The brand new Apple XCode 7 allows to install a self signed app on a device, so I've been able to run QLC+ on a 4th generation iPad.
Surprisingly, the retina display doesn't bother my UI design. Great stuff !
I need to adjust some deployment issues (fixtures, plugins, scripts, etc are not loaded yet) but I'm confident I can make it.
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Sharing a VC peek ;)
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